There were two other things I enjoyed reading in the edition of The Independent‘s “Review” that I mention below: Andy Gill’s record reviews, of course—he has this anachronistic tendency to write about the music itself and listen to black artists (without making excuses for them)—and a review of yet another book by a middle-class mother recounting the horrors of giving birth and looking after a new-born baby. The bit that stuck with me was this quote from the memoir:
“Children are actually a form of brainwashing. They are a cult, a perfectly legal cult”
The quote also started me thinking about various “British” cults.
A friend of mine is currently writing, amongst other things, about why Britain doesn’t and hasn’t had as much trouble with anti-Semitism as the rest of Europe. I think one reason is that we just don’t feel comfortable with people who take things too seriously. Never mind taking the hatred of Jews seriously (and/or constructing crazy conspiracy theories around them), even taking war, or love, or football seriously is considered suspect. The British distrust intellectuals, dislike pretension and the putting on of airs, and they don’t do fundamentalism. “Passionate Briton” is not a phrase you read very often. Perhaps this is why certain other phrases fall into an English conversation like false teeth into a punch bowl.
For example: you are discussing some misfortune in yours or someone else’s life. The person you are discussing it with chimes in empathetically, “I remember I was distraught when my mother died. I lost my way.”
The second sentence makes you wince inwardly, guessing but wishing against what is going to follow.
“Then, I found Jesus…”
No, no. Please no. I’m stuck on a train to Edinburgh with a God-botherer.
But there are worse things than finding out you will be spending a long journey sitting opposite a born-again Christian.
You are walking through a Tube station tunnel and mutter some flip remark about the song a busker is playing. Your companion, doesn’t hear you properly. All he hears is “Dylan”. That’s all he needs.
“Of course, Like A Rolling Stone is nothing like his best composition. I think the finest collection of his songs as poetry as well as his best songwriting per se is on a 1976 bootleg that I picked up at a convention in Hamburg…”
No, no. Please, no. I’m going to be stuck in a London pub all evening with a Dylan-obsessive.
(I know just enough about music to be embarrassing, so an extra layer of torment for me is that Bob Dylan is the perfect musical enthusiasm for people who know absolutely nothing about music. I’ve been lucky enough to hang around with and perform with a number of truly superb musicians [suckers!] and not one of them has expressed any enthusiasm for the bloke’s work. He’s a kind of shibboleth in the trade, a bit like Oasis—who are inexplicably popular and admired by consumers, but universally considered a waste of good recording tape by musos. This is not in itself a reliable measure of the quality of a writer or performer, but interesting all the same.)
Here’s my provisional list of Brit-bores: Monty Python fans, Tolkienists, photographers who are more interested in photographic equipment than photographs, vinyl record collectors, keen gardeners, anyone who enjoys going to IKEA, and people who compile lists. Readers are welcome to add to it.
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Stand Back Chaps
It’s a truth universally acknowledged that a relatively new blogger needs attention if his blog is to attract readers. How does he get it though…
Monty Python fans
Specifically the type of fan who is more interested in anally word-perfect renditions of the sketches rather than displaying the faintest clue as to why they might originally have been funny. John Cleese once expressed surprise when an accountant told him how much he’d liked a sketch about accountants and, when asked why he wasn’t perturbed by the sketch being a vicious attack on him and everything he stood for, replied “Oh, but the guy in your sketch was a chartered accountant – I’m a certified accountant”.
photographers who are more interested in photographic equipment than photographs,
I had a Saturday job on a Dixons camera counter many years ago, and can firmly endorse this one – and have particularly fond memories of an article in a photography magazine in which half a dozen of the world’s best photographers were given an assignment and a budget of £25, which included buying camera and film from scratch.
The results, of course, were stunning, not least because they used the equipment’s limitations to creative ends – and I’d happily have handed out copies of the article to the many customers who sincerely believed that photographic talent was intimately linked to the amount of money spent. Unfortunately, it would also have got me fired, as my job was to sell the most expensive cameras on the shelf, but that’s consumer capitalism for you.
Bob Dylan is a boon to musicians, for it is impossible to cover one of his songs without improving on it, even if inadvertently.
Any singer-songwriter who is regularly described by fans as a poet is crap. It’s the law. Jim Morrison is a good example.
Oasis are not that great, but they beat Dylan hands down.
I once got stuck on a train next to an expert on bus routes and bus stations.
“Where are you from?”
“Peckham.”
“Ah, now Peckham Bus Station is very interesting …”
I wish to add to your list anyone who uses the word “proletariat” in any context other than the one in which I just did.
And people who complain about split infinitives.
Sorry, but though dissing a musician of Dylan’s stature may get you some wanna-be coolness points, you’re obviously completely clueless in terms of the history of popular music, specifically Rock & Roll, to discount his immense contribution. Remember that before Dylan, popular music, even The Beatles, were at the level of “I Want To Hold Your Hand” – poppy, catchy music with absolutely nothing meaningful to say. Dylan changed all that and though the pretension of popular music to be meaningful soon got carried away to the point of absurdity (this is where Jim Morrison’s “poetics” would be appropriately placed), Dylan never stopped changing and challenging his audience. He’s similar to Miles Davis, who though not by any means the most technically accomplished of musicians, reinvented himself time and again pushing the music further. Though not all of his work is the best, Highway 61 Revisited, Blonde on Blonde, Blood on the Tracks among others are albums that compare to the best of what has been done in popular music over the last 40 years. Don’t forget his ’65-66 tours with The Band that, as evidenced on the “Royal Albert Hall” now officially released bootleg, is music more profound and exciting than anything else that was going on at the time. Get your head out of your ass and listen to some of it. Oh and I am a professional musician…
This is a quick and superficial retort because I have to rush off somewhere now to make some music.
I’m assuming the Mel’s comment isn’t aimed at my original post, which was about Dylan bores (and musicians’ opinions of Dylan) rather than Bob Dylan himself. (And, incidentally, regulars here will also know “wanna-be coolness points” are of zero concern to me; this site’s called “PooterGeek” after all.)
I am, however, going to take issue with this:
“Remember that before Dylan, popular music, even The Beatles, were at the level of “I Want To Hold Your Hand” – poppy, catchy music with absolutely nothing meaningful to say. Dylan changed all that”
which, notwithstanding your claimed status as a professional musician, loses you a lot of “authority points”. It’s complete cobblers—unless you believe that popular music began when young white people started jiving to it (a common misconception) and even then I’d be up for a few rounds arguing your contention.
This popular piece said something fairly “meaningful” when it was written in 1938.
And the work of these people might be worth “getting your head out of your ass” to listen to before passing judgement on what constitutes true greatness or accusing others of being “clueless in terms of the history of popular music”.
Just for the record: I don’t think Bob Dylan is rubbish; I just think he’s over-rated—and so do a lot of musicians. One reason people don’t often admit that they find Dylan unexciting is their well-founded fear that their confession will be met with a myopic rant.
Mel, I’m back now and I’ve just read Squander Two’s comment above yours more closely. I can understand why it might provoke someone to a rant. Jim Morrison is indeed a bit of a joke, but the idea that Oasis “beat Dylan hands down” is just daft. (They can’t even beat people hands down in bar brawls—hilarious, given their chronic macho bragging about what dangerous rock’n’roll beasts they are.)
[I’m also slightly worried that I might have risen to the bait of a parody comment, given that you make your case for Dylan’s “profundity” on the basis of a “bootleg” tape.]
> dissing a musician of Dylan’s stature may get you some wanna-be coolness points
If I wanted coolness points, I’d hardly be supporting Bush for re-election or admitting that I don’t hate Oasis.
> you’re obviously completely clueless in terms of the history of popular music, specifically Rock & Roll
Funny thing: when I listen to music, I listen to music.
> before Dylan, popular music, even The Beatles, were at the level of “I Want To Hold Your Hand” …
Now, there’s a song better than anything Dylan has ever done.
> … poppy, catchy music …
Yup. Unlike Dylan. On all three counts.
> … with absolutely nothing meaningful to say.
Ah, that old canard. Just for the record, there’s more to life than politics, and love is plenty meaningful. A lot more people care about love, in fact, than care about politics.